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Old Jul 27, 2006, 02:06 AM // 02:06   #21
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I wouldn't be surprised if the bonus applied for dervish enchantments only.
Doubtful. Of the existing primary attributes, I think only Divine Favor is limited that way...
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Old Jul 27, 2006, 06:05 AM // 06:05   #22
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D/E sounds interesting to me...
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Old Jul 27, 2006, 09:31 AM // 09:31   #23
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I find it hard to believe that Anet wouldn't have found these obviously overpowered tactics during testing. I mean, they're not stupid.

Most likely, there'll be an extra set of conditions that have to be met in order to get the bonus, that we don't know of.

Personally I think you'd only gain the energy and health if an Enchantment on yourself expires, meaning that you won't get a squat if you removed or reapplied the Enchantment, but only if it expired by itself or was removed by an opponent (not sure about the latter).

Also, I don't think spamming Orders will help much either, because you probably only get energy/health when Enchantments on YOU expire; not when they expire on others (either that or it only works on people standing "near by" or something).

Only guesses, but I seriously doubt Anet would make a primary attribute THAT broken without forseeing the complications it will bring with it.
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Old Jul 27, 2006, 10:40 AM // 10:40   #24
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I find it hard to believe that Anet wouldn't have found these obviously overpowered tactics during testing. I mean, they're not stupid.

Most likely, there'll be an extra set of conditions that have to be met in order to get the bonus, that we don't know of.

Personally I think you'd only gain the energy and health if an Enchantment on yourself expires, meaning that you won't get a squat if you removed or reapplied the Enchantment, but only if it expired by itself or was removed by an opponent (not sure about the latter).

Also, I don't think spamming Orders will help much either, because you probably only get energy/health when Enchantments on YOU expire; not when they expire on others (either that or it only works on people standing "near by" or something).

Only guesses, but I seriously doubt Anet would make a primary attribute THAT broken without forseeing the complications it will bring with it.
Of course it will only work on you!
Anyone who has ever thought otherwise, are retarded.

And yes, spamming orders will work. 8 energy cost. It will also be applied to you. And the spell costs 10 energy. So you will end up will end up only losing 2 energy per spell.

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Old Jul 27, 2006, 11:05 AM // 11:05   #25
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^Many people have been suggesting that this would work everytime something like Aegis ended on every ally.
That would be totally overpowered, but the description says "when an enchantment ends" so technically it could mean when any enchantment on the battlefield ends, including enemy enchantments, though this is extremely unlikely.
But please don't call other people retards when it's a perfectly honest assumption. Read the attribute description, it's not all too clear.

And yes, Orders will work (I said it wrong before). I meant that you couldn't use Orders to be a perpetual energy machine, due to Mysticism most likely only working on yourself and therefor it can't out-fuel the cost of the Orders.

To be honest, I'm more worried about Reversal of Fortune spamming. But I'm sure Anet has thought of that.
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